Monday, April 26, 2010

Bible study question: who or what is the Whore of Babylon?

I am an Evangelical Christian who studies the Bible. One of the interesting prophetic characters in the Bible is the Whore of Babylon. Who do you think she is? What do you think she is?


I know what I think the answer is, but I would like to see what others think.

Bible study question: who or what is the Whore of Babylon?
That would be ALL false religion.
Reply:False religion is anything which represents itself as being of God's will, but is FALSE to his teachings. Many use the Catholic church as their example.


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Reply:The roman catholic cult. Catholics are not saved Christians. Catholicism is used to unite the world under false "unity and peace", a one-world religion that Jesus comes back and judges and destroys.
Reply:It is Rome. When John wrote Rev. he used the term Babylon to represent the Roman Empire.
Reply:The Whore of Babylon is first seen in Zechariah 5. She was not to be let loose just yet, but was being prepared. We see her in full maturity in Revelation, drunk on the blood of the saints with, of all things, a chalice!





This is the world ecumenical religion that will arise out of Europe and will be part and parcel of the new world economy. One economy, one religion. If you do not accept both together, you will be beheaded.





I see this as a religion that will combine all major religions into one politically correct version. Much of the description points to the Roman Catholic church as being part of this coalition of religions. I believe Islam will be a major portion as well.





If you read the seven letters to the churches, you will see the Roman Catholic church warned that if she did not repent, God would throw her into the Great Tribulation. I see no repentance today. So it looks like she is going to compromise on that day.


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Reply:The Catholic church of course. That's the only possible answer I know of. She fits perfectly.
Reply:The Whore of Babylon is the Roman Catholic Church; the mother of harlots(Rev.17:5). Mother of harlots means it is a mother that has daughter churches that follow her false teachings; not God's teachings.


Evidence enclosed:





Questions answered in KJV BIBLE: What are the 4 beasts in Daniel, Who is the Beast/Anti-Christ; What is the Mark of the Beast; What is the image of the Beast, and many others.





NEBUCHADNEZZAR'S DREAM





To start out; we have to know the empires in the book of Daniel.


Daniel mentions these 4 beasts clearly; starting from Babylon and ending with Rome as the last and final beast.





Daniel 2:28 = "But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days..."


Daniel 2:32 = "This image's head was of fine gold..."


Daniel 3:1 = "Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plains of dura, in the province of Babylon."


Daniel 7:3-4 = "And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse from one another. The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it."


*Daniel 2:32,38; 7:4; 3:1 "Head of Gold" = Lion = Babylon = King Nebuchadnezzar {625-539B.C.}





Daniel 2:32 = "...his breast and his arms of silver..."


Daniel 5:25-28 = "And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. This is the interpetation of the thing: MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. TEKERL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting. Peres; Thy kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians."


Daniel 6:28 = "So this Darius prospered in the reign of Darius, and in the reign of Cyrus the Persian."


Daniel 7:5 = "And behold another beast, a second like a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus into it. Arise and devour much flesh."


Daniel 8:20 = "The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia."


*Daniel 2:32; 7:5; 5:25-28; 6:28; 8:20 "Breast and Arms of Silver" = Bear/Ram = Medo-Persia = King Darius %26amp; Cyrus {558-330B.C.}





Daniel 2:32 = "...his belly and his thighs of brass."


Daniel 7:6 = "After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given into it."


Daniel 8:21 = "And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between the eyes is the first king."


*Daniel 2:32; 7:6: 8:21 "Belly and thighs of brass" = Leopard/Goat = Greece = Alexander the Great {333-31B.C.}





Daniel 2:33 = "His legs of iron,..."


Daniel 7:7 = "After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it; and it had ten horns."


Daniel 7:8 = "I considered the horns, and behold, there came upon them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots, and behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things."


Daniel 8:9 = "And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceedingly great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land."


Daniel 8:12 = "And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of trangression(sin), and it cast down the truth to the ground: and it practiced, and prospered."


*Daniel 2:33; 7:7,8,24,25: 8:9,12 "Legs of Iron" = Dreadful Beast = Rome {31B.C.-476A.D.}


*Daniel 2:33 "his feet part of iron and part of clay." = Divided Empire





Nebuchadnezzar's Dream


http://family.webshots.com/photo/1346702...


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WHO ARE THESE 10 HORNS?


**Now the 10 horns represents kings or kingdoms and 1 comes up among the them and destroys (DANIEL 7:8,23,24)three.





3 Successive Horns uprooted (babarians followers of Arianism destroyed on papal authority--this period called the "transition age" in Philip Myers' Ancient History, p.571)


AND THEN A LITTLE HORN COMES UPON THE SCENE THAT HAS DESTROYED THE HERULI (under Odoacer) 476-493AD, KINGDOM OF THE VANDALS 429-533AD AND KINGDOM OF THE OSTROGOTHS 493-554AD.





NOW DETERMINING WHO THE HORN IS: A.C. FLICK, THE RISE OF THE MEDIAEVAL CHURCH. (PUTNAM'S 1909 ED.)PP.148-149.


*FROM THE CLUES IN THE BIBLE; WE KNOW IT'S THE ROMAN EMPIRE (REV.17:4; COMPARE TO MATT.27:28 AND MARK 15:17,20


Rev.17:4 = "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colur,..."


Matt.27:28 = "And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe."


Mark 15:16,17 = "And the soldiers led him away into the hall, called Praetorium; and they called together the whole band. And they clothed him with purple, and plaited a crown of thorns, and put it upon his head."


Mark 15:20 = "And when they had mocked him, they took off the purple, and plaited a crown of thorns, and put it upon his head."





Little horn among the 10 (Daniel 7:8,20-22,24-27)


2-Horned Lamb-Like Beast from earth and image(Rev.13:11-18)


Royally Clad Harlot named Mystery, Babylon the Great (Rev.17:1-6)


Symbolic meaning = False Christian Religion Ruling the Beast


Historical Fulfillment = Roman Catholic Church under the Pope (in the image of the Roman civil government)





Now to continue:


REV.17:10 "And there are seven kings: five have fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space."





4th Horn = 1st of Last 7 horns = 1st Head of Scarlet Beast ridden by Harlot = Imperial Restoration of the West under Justinian (554AD)


5th Horn = 2nd of Last 7 horns = 2nd Head ridden by Harlot = Carolingian Empire (Charlemagne crowned in 800AD)


6th Horn = 3rd of last 7 horns = 3rd Head ridden by Harlot = Holy Roman Empire (Otto the Great crowned in 926AD)


7th Horn = 4th of last 7 horns = 4th Head ridden by Harlot = Hapsburg Dynasty (Charles v crowned in 1530AD)


8th Horn = 5th of last 7 horns = 5th Head ridden by Harlot = Napoleon's Empire 1804-1814AD





Symbolic Meaning of the 4th to the 8th Horn = Revivals of the Beast: The 7 last horns of Daniel 7 and Revelation 13 are the same as the Scarlet Beast of Revelation 17.


(5 of which are "fallen" when Napoleon is defeated in 1814--Rev.17:10





Deadly Wound was healed in 554AD-1814. This would be 1,260 years when Napoleon crushed the "Holy Roman Empire" in 1814.


{A time = a prophetic year. Times (or two times as stated in the margin of some versions)would be two years, half a time = one half a year. This makes a total of 3-1/2 years, or 1260 days, caculating at 360 days in a prophetic year. Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 12:6,13,14 equates the 1260 years with the time, times and one half time.}








9th Horn = 6th of last 7 horns = 6th Head ridden by Harlot = "One IS" (Revelation 17:10)--understood by God's Church in end time (Daniel 12:9-10). Historical Fulfillment = Italy and Germany ending in the Hitler-Mussolini Axis 1870-1945AD


THE CATHOLIC ADVOCATE (AUSTRALIA), APRIL 18,1929.


FRONT PG. OF S.F. CHRONICLE WITH HEADLINE "HEAL WOUND OF MANY YEARS"; FEB.12,1929)





10th Horn = 7th of last 7 horns = 7th Head ridden by Harlot (with ten horns); 8th System if Beast itself is 1st (Rev.17:11)


Symbolic Meaning = Other Revival That Has "NOT YET COME" (Revelation 17:10)


Historical Fulfillment = Last Revival of the Roman Empire (10 National Rulers under a single leader)





REV.17:10 was fulfilled on television when the Papacy said "that Benedict would be Pope for a short time."


http://family.webshots.com/photo/2178801...


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...


REALLY HIS IMAGE IS GOING TO COME ALIVE! WHEN HE PUTS CHURCH AND STATE TOGETHER. HERE'S JUST A PIECE OF IT IN--"POPE'S DREAM OF HEALING CHRISTIAN RIFT STILL A DISTANT GLIMMER" IN ENTERPRISE RECORD DATED: SUNDAY JUNE 12, 2005.





These 10 (Rev.17:12-13)rulers will be giving their support to a coming union of church and state in Europe, which will aspire to world dominance. After an interlude of apparent peace and prosperity, the system will plunge the whole world into a nightmare(World War 3). That's why Jesus has to come back; he has to save the world from total destruction. Matthew 24:21,22,29,30.





The Beast of Revelation


http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/booklets/t...


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WHO IS THE BEAST OF DANIEL AND REVELATION?





Rev.13:18 "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."





~~~~~~~~~~"HIS NAME" AND "HIS NUMBER" ~~~~~


Rev.13:17 = "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the Name of the beast, or the number of HIS NAME."





"The number indicated by the letters of HIS NAME." 20th Century New Testament





"Verse 18, Six Hundred Sixty Six, The numeral letters of HIS NAME shall make up this number." Douay (Catholic) Bible. Note on Revelation 13:18.





"The method of reading generally adopted is that known as the GHEMATRIA of the rabbins, which assigns each letter of a name it's usual numerical value, and given the sum of such numbers as the equivalant of the NAME," "Word Studies in the N. T.", Marvin R. Vincent, D.D., notes on Revelation 13:18.





"The Pope is of great dignity and so exalted that he is not a mere man, but as it were God and the VICAR OF GOD."


"The Pope is of such lofty and supreme dignity that, properly speaking, he has not been established in any rank of dignity, but rather has been placed upon the very summit of all ranks of dignities."...


"He is likewise the divine monarch and supreme emperor and king of kings."


"HENCE THE POPE IS CROWNED WITH A TRIPLE CROWN, AS KING OF HEAVEN AND OF EARTH AND OF THE LOWER REGIONS." Ferraris' Eccl. Dictionary (Catholic) Article, Pope.





"What are the letters supposed to be in the Pope's crown, and what do they signify, if anything?"


"The letters inscribed in the Pope's miter are these VICARIUS FILII DEI, which is the Latin for 'VICAR OF THE SON OF GOD.' Catholics hold that the church, which is a visible society, must have a visible head. Christ, before his ascension into heaven, appointed St. Peter to act as His represenative....Hence the bishop of Rome, as head of the church, was given the title~'VICAR OF CHRIST'." Our Sunday Visitor, (Catholic Weekly) "Bureau of Information," Huntington, Ind., April 18, 1915.





According to:


http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/vicarius-f...


OUR SUNDAY VISITOR, (CATHOLIC WEEKLY) BUREAU OF INFORMATION," HUNTINGTON, IND., APRIL 18, 1915;it says on the pope's crown(tiara) are these letters: VICARIUS FILII DEI; what do they signify?


ROMAN NUMERALS FOR THESE LETTERS ARE: V=5; I=1; C=100; U=5; D=500; L=50 = THEY ADD UP TO 666.


(note: Jesus called God "Holy Father", but Roman Catholics call the pope "Most Holy Father" and "VICAR OF CHRIST" which means "in place of Christ"!)


CATHOLIC SOURCE that claims this title


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catho...


http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0ge...


http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0ge...





It's also in the word Lateinos(Latin Man or Church); a Greek term referring to the Romans.


Greek letters for Lateinos (L=30; A=1; T=300; E=5; I=10; N=50; O=70; S=200).


http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=na...


Also "the Latin Kingdom" (h Latine Basileia) has a numerical value of 666.


http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=na...


Also in Hebron--Romiith (Roman Kingdom)





The Book of Revelation was written in Greek for Greek-speaking churches in Ancient Asia Minor.





Another name is Nero Caesar; in Greek it was spelled Neron Kaesar. He martyred most of the Apostles including Peter and Paul. When his name is spelled out in Hebrew characters; the numeral value also adds up to 666.


http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=na...





Ancient Rome was founded by Romulus; the name was derived from Rome and Roman. Romvlvs a Latin name that was written in Hebrew as Romiith. In the Hebrew language; these letters also add up to 666. (resh=200, vau=6, mem=40, yod=10, tau=400).





Roman Kingdom is always stamped with the number 666 in Greek and Hebrew; the two languages from the Bible.


http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/booklets/t...





Now we challenge the world to find another name in these languages: Greek, Hebrew, and Latin, which shall designate the same number." Joseph f. Berg, in his book, "Papal Rome," page 216.





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Are the characteristics/clues of the Roman Catholic Church found in the Bible?





Does the Papacy fit all these characteristics:


1. Let's see; this church (REV.17:9)"sits on 7 hills" in Rome.


http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en%26amp;oe=IS...


2. It wears (REV.17:4)"purple and scarlet".


http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en%26amp;lr=%26amp;i...


3. It is a (REV.17:5)"mother church", so it has daughters or other churches following her teachings.


4. It even has casted "all the truth to the ground" = DAN.8:12


5. It will "think to change God's Law" = DAN.7:25


*GENERAL CATHOLIC CATECHISM*


http://www.angelfire.com/sc/YJesusCame/p...


http://www.marianland.com/tencommandment...


http://www.padfield.com/1993/tencom.html


http://family.webshots.com/photo/1339749...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Command...


http://www.truecatholic.org/baltp2.htm


6. "All the world has followed it" = REV.13:12-15


7. It had a(REV.13:1-3)deadly wound that was healed


*Willis West's Modern History, (p.377).


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WHO IS THE ANTI-CHRIST?





I'm going to put this in a simple way for you to understand it. Anti-Christ means "against Christ"; in other words is against Jesus and his teachings.


PHIL.2:21 "FOR ALL SEEK THEIR OWN, NOT THE THINGS WHICH ARE JESUS CHRIST'S."





The Anti-Christ is the "lawless one"; the "man of sin" which "opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped..." 2Thess.2:3-4


(note: Catholics confess their sins in booths to the Priest.


Who can forgive sins, but God alone, but priests say to people their sins are forgiven.)


http://www.angelfire.com/ma/romewatch/pa...


http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-41...


http://jesus-messiah.com/apologetics/cat...





DANIEL 7:25 tells us "HE SHALL SPEAK GREAT WORDS AGAINST THE MOST HIGH, AND SHALL WEAR OUT THE SAINTS OF THE MOST HIGH, AND THINK TO CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS..."





ROM.1:25 = "WHO CHANGED THE TRUTH OF GOD INTO A LIE, AND WORSHIPPED AND SERVED THE CREATURE MORE THAN THE CREATOR, WHO IS BLESSED FOR EVER. AMEN."





Evidence: (Catholics know when the seventh day is)


"1. Is Saturday the 7th day occording to the Bible %26amp; the 10 Commandments.


"I answer yes.


"2. Is Sunday the first day of the week %26amp; did the Church change the 7th day--Saturday---for Sunday, the 1st. day:


"I answer yes.


"3. Did Christ change the day


"I anser no! Faithfully yours,


"J. Card. Gibbons"


--Gibbon's Autograph letter.


"Ques.--Which is the Sabbath day?


"Ans.--Saturday is the Sabbath day.


"Ques.--Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?


"Ans.--We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday."--Peter Geiermann, The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1946 ed.), p.50. Geiermann received the "apostolic blessing" of Pope Pius x on his labors, Jan.25,1910.


Bible Readings pg.194.





"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act...And the act is a Mark of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things." ---H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons.





{Note: Catholics even changed the time you do the Sabbath too. They say "midnight to midnight"; when the Bible says "evening to evening" according to Genesis 1:5,8,13,19,23,31 and Lev.23:32.}





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TEN COMMANDMENTS IN OLD TESTAMENT


1. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.


2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath. or that is in the water under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation that hate Me; and showing mercy unto thousands of them that love Me, and keep my commandments.


3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain.


4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work; but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.


5. Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.


6. Thou shalt not kill.


7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.


8. Thou shalt not steal.


9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.


10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ***, nor anything that is thy neighbor's.


----See Exodus 20:1-18





Psalms 89:34 = "I WILL NOT ALTER NOR BREAK THE THING THAT IS GONE OUT OF MY LIPS."


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TEN COMMANDMENTS IN NEW TESTAMENT


1. "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve." = Matt.4:10


2. "Little children, keep yourselves from idols." "Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device." = 1Jn.5:21; Acts 17:29


3. "That the name of God and His doctrine be not blashemed." = 1Tim.6:1


4. "Pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the Sabbath day." "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath: therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath." "For He spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all His works." "There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is ebntered into His rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from His." "For by Him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in the earth." = Matt.24:20; Mark 2:27-28; Heb.4:4,9,10, margin Col.1:16.


5. "Honor thy father and thy mother" = Matt.19:19


6. "Thou shalt not kill." = Rom.13:9


7. "Thou shalt not commit adultery." = Matt.19:18


8. "Thou shalt not steal." = Rom.13:9


9. "Thou shalt not bear false witness" = Rom.13:9


10. "Thou shalt not covet" = Rom.7:7





AFTER JESUS'S DEATH


"Do we then make void thy law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." = Rom.3:31


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THE TEN COMMANDMENTS AS CHANGED BY THE PAPACY


1. I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not have strange gods before Me.


(It will be observed that the second commandment as found in the Bible is left out.)


2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.


3. Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day.


"A Doctrinal catechism," (Catholic) pg.174, has the following question and answer:---


"Q.--Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?"


"A.--Had she not such power...she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."


4. Honor thy father and thy mother.


5. Thou shalt not kill.


6. Thou shalt not commit adultery.


7. Thou shalt not steal.


8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.


9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.


10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods.


----See General Catholic Catechism





"HE SHALL THINK TO CHANGE TIMES AND THE LAW."--Dan.7:25. R.V.





"That man of sin...who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God." = 2Thess.2:3-4


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MARK OF THE BEAST/IMAGE OF THE BEAST





Mark of the Beast is a (Rev.17:13)Form of Government(Roman Empire is always stamped with the number 666 in Greek and Hebrew; the two languages from the Bible); it has an ecclesiastical and a civil government(Rev.13:11).The pope is both a religious leader as a civil head of state.The Mark of the Beast will probably be forced by Sunday Law as it was back then. It will be when the the Pope uses the power of the state (beast) to force his will to the world; to worship this system. It is a brand of disobedience; it's not a physical mark(compare Rev.14:10 with Col.3:6); just like the Seal of God in Deut.6:8{knowing, doing and keeping the Sabbath holy}and Rev.7:2-3 is not a literal mark. {"The hand is a symbolic of actions, while the forehead is the seat of intellect. Obedience to God involves both actions (hand) and will(forehead)".}


http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/booklets/t...


http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en%26amp;lr=%26amp;i...





"IF ANY MAN WORSHIP THE BEAST{Sunday} AND HIS IMAGE{teachings of Catholic Church} AND RECEIVE HIS MARK IN HIS FOREHEAD,{affections} OR IN HIS HAND" {REV:14:9, refraining from labor on THAT DAY}.{See ECCLES.9:10; ROM.7:25.}


http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/cgi-bin/tw...





"The OBSERVANCE of SUNDAY by the Protestants is an HOMAGE THEY PAY in spite of themselves to the AUTHORITY OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH."


Plain Talk for Protestants, pg.213.





"Ques.--How prove you that the church hath power to command feasts and holy days?


"ANS.--By the very act of changing the sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of, and therefore contradict themselves by keeping Sunday strictly, and breaking most other feasts commanded by the same church."


"Ques.--How prove you that?


"Answer.--Because by keeping SUNDAY they ACKNOWLEDGE the CHURCH'S POWER to ordain feasts, and to command them under sin." Douay catechism, page 59.





"The Catholic Church for over one thousand years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her divine mission changed the day from Saturday to Sunday." Catholic Mirror, Sept., 1893.





"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act...And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things." H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons.





"WE HEREBY AGREE...that such Sabbath (Sunday) observance laws for the District of Columbia MAY BE LOOKED UPON not only as MODEL SABBATH OBSERVANCE LAWS FOR AMERICA, but as model Sabbath observance laws for the REST OF THE WORLD."


Christian Statesman, Sept.,1927.


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See the two babylons by Alexander Hislop


http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8%26amp;...


http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/magazine/t...





The two Babylons in simplest form (pictures)


http://family.webshots.com/photo/2323904...


http://family.webshots.com/photo/2805094...





http://www.remnantofgod.org/flash/acssme...
Reply:You MUST study the symbolism in that statement. This is a very lengthy topic to talk about in a few sentences. However, there is a website that has the answer, that I believe, answers your question thoroughly and thoughtfully.





http://www.amazingfacts.org/items/storac...





I recommend going through all the lessons in order to gain much of the background that will be mentioned in the study.





The study that you seek is called "The Daughter's Dance"





GOD bless
Reply:The Seventh Day Adventist Church calls the Catholic Church the "Whore of Babylon." Christ was falsely accused. Just as He was accused of doing the work of the Devil, He predicted that His Church would also be accused in the same way. Mat. 10: 25 "If they have called the master of the house Beelzebul, how much more those of his household !" We know that Christ’s prophecy is true, so our search for His Church that He established can be safely restricted to considering only those Churches that are accused of doing the Devil’s work.


Mark 14:55-59 "Many gave false witness against him, but their testimony did not agree…"


John 15:18-20 "If the world hates you, realize that it hated me first.


… If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you."


Matthew 12:24-26 "But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, ‘This man drives out demons only by the power of Beelzebul, the prince of demons.’ But he knew what they were thinking and said to them, ‘Every kingdom divided against itself will be laid waste, and no town or house divided against itself will stand. And if Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself; how, then, will his kingdom stand?’





Lets look first at literal interpretation.





"The seven heads represent seven hills on which the woman sits." First of all, no Pope has ever lived or had his "seat" (cathedra or cathedral) on any of the seven hills of Rome. These hills are small hillocks (Capitoline, Palatine, Esquiline, Aventine and three lesser "bumps" in central Rome) where the religion and government of pagan Rome was situated. The Catholic Church's headquarters at the Lateran (the cathedral) and at the Vatican (where the Pope lives) does not coincide with them. At the time that John wrote Revelation the Christians of Rome lived mostly in Trastevere (trans Tiber), a district "across the Tiber" from the City and adjacent to the Vatican hill where St. Peter was crucified and buried. The Vatican is on top of that burial site and is today its own city-state distinct from Rome and Italy.





So, of what was St. John speaking when he wrote Revelation on the island of Patmos around 96 AD? Obviously of the pagan imperial system situated on the Seven Hills, especially the Capitoline (the religious and political center) and the Palatine (the imperial palace). This pagan power persecuted the Church of Rome in Nero's day (64-67 AD), and in the mid-90s under Domitian was persecuting Christians throughout the Roman world. Domitian was considered by the people a re-incarnation of the evil, but well-liked, Nero (the head that lives again). While the antichrist Nero persecuted only the Christians of Rome, Domitian extended that persecution throughout the empire. Both are thus types of the final persecutor, the Antichrist.





Why the cryptic name Babylon? First, the historical Babylon was the pagan power which persecuted the People of God, the Jews, between 610 and 538 BC, destroying the Temple and dispersing the people. The Romans inherited that mantle of infamy when they destroyed the Temple in 70 AD, and, more importantly, persecuted the new People of God, the Church. Thus, St. Peter, writing from Rome refers to as "Babylon" (1 Pt. 5:13) - a name any Jew or Christian familiar with the Old Testament would know.





How does this relate to the Antichrist? The future Antichrist will be a world-wide power, essentially pagan, which will persecute the Catholic Church (and orthodox Christians in general) everywhere, as the Babylonians persecuted the Jews and 1st century Rome the Church. These are biblical types! The Babylon of John's day, Rome, stands for the kingdom of the future Antichrist and is no more likely to be situated in Italy than Rome needed to be situated in Babylonia (modern Iraq). John was informing his readers of these prophetic types by drawing their attention to the contemporary fulfillment they found in pagan Rome. The Antichrist will come out of the Christian world (Greco-Roman civilization) to be sure (1 John 2:19), but America is as much an inheritor of that civilization as Europe and just as likely to be the source of the Antichrist.





Finally, after distorting the text and history to read what they want into the Bible, and thereby obtaining God's "blessing" on their hatred of the Catholic Church, some "Christians" ignore the only texts of Scripture which tells us about the religious leanings of the Antichrist. The Catholic faith being a religion you would think they would see what it teaches on the only criteria the Bible actually gives about the Antichrist. In St. John's letters (1 John 4, 2 John 1), he tells us that the spirit of the Antichrist denies the Incarnation (the Son of God becoming man) and thereby also the Trinity (the Father and the Spirit, too). This is the spirit of the Antichrist. There is not a single text in 2000 years, including the new Catechism of the Catholic Church, where the Catholic Church, her popes, her bishops, her official teachings, her saints, or her acknowledged ecclesiastical authors, deny the Word-made-flesh or the Blessed Trinity. Instead, all of Christianity owes the preservation of these Truths to the Catholic Church, whose great Councils formulated them and whose saints and popes have defended them to this day, often at the cost of martyrdom. The present pope, John Paul II, has written three great encyclical (circular) letters on the Trinity, one for each Divine Person, and he has without a doubt preached Jesus Christ to more people than any other person in human history. The Catholic Church does not have the spirit of the Antichrist but of God, since no one without the Spirit can say "Jesus is Lord" (1 Cor. 12:3), something the Church and Catholics always have done and continue to do!
Reply:The Harlot is the false religion that will be in power in the end times with the antchrist. And many will be deceived and follow her.








I, too, believe it is the Roman Catholic Church. And the Pope is the false prophet.


You asked.
Reply:Very simply put - it's the world empire of false religion, all of them. The beast that kills the woman is the political system.
Reply:Some xxxxx church who will get payback soon. Oh Lord Come.
Reply:The harlot in Revelation symbolizes the world empire of false religion, those who profess to serve God, but, prove false to these claims by their works. Revelation also speaks about her committing fornication with the kings of the nations, this depicts her close relationships with the governments of the world, who will eventually destroy her.
Reply:I don't know, but with all the horney marines in iraq, i'm sure she's doing a thriving business these days!
Reply:Rev. 17? The leadership of the USA. (from a lifetime USA citizen). The beast is the USA.
Reply:I believe she is a metaphor for the drunkenness and sinfulness of this generation. Dragging everyone down with her, like what you see on TV, the Internet and such, the all around sinful nature.
Reply:Islam.
Reply:Isreal?
Reply:Lindsey Lohan
Reply:If she is NT, she doesn't exist, and never will... if she is OT, she is very likely an analogy.
Reply:Most ppl think it's that mary magdolin. (spelling?) But I think it's Barbra Bush lol

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